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The Timeless

motherhood PHOTO SHOOTS

and Older Babies

motherhood and older babies photo shoot

Between 4 and 12 months is the time when a parent truly bonds with their child.  Your baby can smile, laugh, interact and hug.. this is just the most wonderful time to capture, and what’s more, they can’t run away!!!!  This photo shoot is more about you and your child and the bond that has formed over the last few months.  

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RECENT REVIEWS

Marina Gordeeva
Marina Gordeeva
22:21 15 May 20
Great experience throughout and fantastic pictures - from the professional communication, friendly welcome in the studio, fast turnaround of the images from the photo shoot and absolutely stunning pictures - I definitely recommend Susan to other moms-to-be.
Jasvin S
Jasvin S
21:39 07 Mar 20
We had a great time at Susan's studio and loved the style of photography and quality of the shots. Would definitely use again.
C J
C J
11:18 21 Feb 20
The whole experience with Susan was amazing. She was great and flexible around the booking for the shooting session. The session itself was smooth and fun and while we were worried about how our toddler would behave, everything went so well thanks to Susan’s experience ! We have then received the pictures within few days only (other photographers usually take much longer). Last but not least, the pictures were astonishing ! We never had pictures like these ones. We, and more particularly our toddler, looked so naturally beautiful in the pictures! Not only we will recommend Susan to all our friends but we will definitely use her again in the future
Helena Bloomer
Helena Bloomer
19:33 17 Feb 20
Susan captures the most amazing images. She completely puts you at ease meaning they look natural and is a genius with lighting and angles. Her photos manage to make you look like you’re in editorials from glossy magazines.
Sugha Murugesu
Sugha Murugesu
14:32 13 Feb 20
Beautiful photos - thank you!
Bhupendra Patel
Bhupendra Patel
11:48 12 Feb 20
Amazing pictures. Experience was very happy and relaxing.
Tim Gort
Tim Gort
06:51 05 Jan 20
This is the second time that my wife and I have had our photos taken by Susan; the first two years ago was for a maternity shoot and more recently we did a newborn shoot. On both occasions Susan put us at ease, especially when I am uncomfortable behind and in front of the camera. Susan was very patient with our daughter in our recent photo shoot, she gave easy to follow directions and was very good with her.Overall we had two fun and enjoyable experiences which resulted in some lovely photos.
Analeesa Ciampi
Analeesa Ciampi
14:28 11 Dec 19
We recently moved to London from New York and wanted to take family photos to share with our friends and family abroad. Susan was very professional and fun to work with. She did a great job capturing our 11 month old and beloved family dog as well as taking candid family moments. I would highly recommend her and use her services again
Veronika Pal
Veronika Pal
10:55 08 Dec 19
Me and my partner had great fun on our maternity photoshoot with Susan, she really made the whole experience easy and the photos came out great.
Oroblam
Oroblam
08:17 08 Nov 19
Susan is such a talented photographer! Just had my maternity photoshoot with her and absolutely loved it. We did outdoor pictures and the results were stunning! The session was really fun and she made me feel relaxed throughout the process. I couldn't recommend more her services.
Benjamin Jinny
Benjamin Jinny
12:13 09 Sep 19
Great Photography...truly amazing.Very professional.
Rex Osafo-Asare
Rex Osafo-Asare
12:24 29 Jun 19
A true professional. Her work speaks for itself. 10/10
Tarana Shivdasani
Tarana Shivdasani
19:35 06 Apr 19
Susan was absolutely brilliant -- we did 2 sessions with her, and in both cases, she went out of her way to make us comfortable. She's an absolute pleasure to work with, and the final result is exactly what we were hoping for!
Bella Kostelec
Bella Kostelec
14:35 06 Apr 19
Susan is amazing. Had my maternity photography in Susan's West London studio when I was 36 weeks pregnant, and also did my baby's 100 days photography with her as well.
Alex & Adolfo Custidianer
Alex & Adolfo Custidianer
18:03 03 Apr 19
We had a family photo shoot with our eight month old baby and absolutely enjoyed the experience! Susan made us feel very comfortable and the photos turned out amazing! We couldn’t pick just 5 so ended up going for 15. Expensive but so worth the price, they’re a work of art and will be treasured for many years to come.
Hazel Tang
Hazel Tang
18:31 03 Mar 19
Susan is lovely! We went to her for a maternity shooting when I'm 36 weeks pregnant. My husband is quiet nervous when we have no idea what to do in front of camera . Susan was very patient and kind that guide us to pose a couple pose and the result is brilliant. We are having so much fun while shooting. She's friendly and accommodating. I would highly recommend!
Chanda Brae
Chanda Brae
13:38 08 Feb 19
I took a workshop with Susan and was so thrilled with the knowledge that I gained from just one day! I feel reinspired and cant wait to start applying the new lighting techniques into my business. Susan is patient and professional, I would recommend her to anyone looking for fine art portraits or looking to learn from her at one of her workshops. She is worth every penny!
James Martin
James Martin
21:09 14 Jan 19
My partner and I had a delightful day with Susan. She spent the time teaching us some of the skills of portrait photography in studio settings and natural light. Her warmth and enthusiasm was infectious and we came away thrilled with the photos we had taken under her guidance.
Ian Saxon
Ian Saxon
11:28 05 Jan 19
Great photographer, great assistant, lovely studio where we were made to feel comfortable throughout. True professionals. We did maternity and newborn and were very pleased with both.
Rachel Faber
Rachel Faber
14:49 27 Dec 18
If you're looking for a modern portrait photographer who can capture your family in an authentic vs staged environment, then Susan is a perfect choice. We were blown away with our maternity and newborn photoshoots with Susan. Both the experience and pictures were more than we could have hoped for. We were made to feel totally comfortable and cannot wait to capture more memories with our beautiful family.
Ganna Yevtushenko
Ganna Yevtushenko
12:32 05 Sep 18
I would recommend any pregnant woman to enjoy the experience of maternity photoshoot! After months of changing body shape, focusing on having a healthy pregnancy, clothes that stop fitting and scrutiny from the outside world - it is amazing to have a few hours dedicated just to you and beauty of your pregnancy. Susan made me and my husband feel extremely comfortable during the whole photoshoot and final images are just stunning memories of our pregnancy journey.
The whole session was so fun. I was very nervous to begin with and felt like I was shaking in front of the camera. Susan has a very calming presence and is very talkative, so I was quickly distracted from those nerves and enjoyed posing in front of the camera by the end! Despite being so warm and friendly, she is also assertive & professional in directing the session and glides around capturing all the right angles and lighting to recreate your favourite looks or new postures that come to mind at the time. I had photos in quite a few outfits, with and without my husband, in different lighting, with different backgrounds and with dramatic chunky jewellery - and we absolutely love the portfolio - just a shame we can’t afford them all!! Nevertheless, we will treasure the photos we’ve chosen for a lifetime. Such fantastic memories of bump and the pregnancy as a whole. We can’t wait to see the prints on physical form (and maybe get one framed for the house). Totally recommend Susan for this creative type of photography! We can’t wait to return for a session with Bambi to capture both the “before” and “after” moments...
Rachel Hung
Rachel Hung
17:19 04 Jul 18
Was so impressed by my pregnancy photoshoot that I went back to Susan for our newborn pictures despite living right across London from her - they were even better! Susan is fun to work with and is completely open to suggestions and ideas. Highly recommended.
Rüdiger Kloss
Rüdiger Kloss
18:04 15 May 18
Susan made us comfortable and we were able to do many different types of shots. We are very glad with the outcome and would highly recommend her!
Yvonne Ogorek-Zarate
Yvonne Ogorek-Zarate
10:43 08 May 18
Susan was such a professional and made the whole experience very, very memorable. From offering me a fresh strong coffee after a tricky night with my little one, to making her big sister feel very special and included, it was a day and show to remember. The pictures are magnificent and they will be treasured for a lifetime. Worth every penny.
Qian Yu
Qian Yu
22:17 19 Mar 18
It has been great experience to have Susan capturing both the bump and newborn sessions for us. Susan is professional, lovely and easy to work with. These impressive shoots from her mean so much to us.
Eliza Moldovan
Eliza Moldovan
20:58 05 Mar 18
Having a baby is such an amazing and wonderful experience. Susan managed to capture this happiness. I am so pleased with our newborn and family pictures. Again and again, Susan proves herself to be a professional photographer and I would highly recommend her to anyone who wants the perfect photoshoot experience. Thank you Susan.
Helen Lin-Chhatpar
Helen Lin-Chhatpar
20:41 31 Jan 18
Susan is an incredibly talented and professional photographer with a gorgeous elegant yet demure style. She is fun to work with, and very understanding and supportive of what you want to get out of your portrait experience. I absolutely love how my maternity portraits turned out and 100% recommend her to anyone that wants a keepsake with some "wow" factor.
Anne Raleigh Rees
Anne Raleigh Rees
18:01 22 Jan 18
my sons got me the most wonderful gift- a family photo shoot! Susan was lovely to work with and we are all happy with the finished product- thank you for capturing the family so beautifully and accurately- you even managed to get the dog in a few photos!
Aspa Psaradellis
Aspa Psaradellis
11:02 06 Jan 18
Thank you once again Susan for a great photoshoot! We used Susan for a newborn photoshoot with our firstborn. We did it in our house so definitely more challenging for a photographer compared to being in a studio. Susan was amazing! Second time, again a family photoshoot with our second baby in our home. As always, Susan was great with the kids, and super efficient! We love our pictures! She managed to capture spontaneous moments full of laughter and happiness that to us are very precious! Thank you once again!
hpoonie
hpoonie
18:08 26 Dec 17
had a fab time at the shoot. Susan put us at ease.
Anna Maggioli
Anna Maggioli
16:20 14 Dec 17
Susan is the perfect photographer to create beautiful memories of your family! We truly love her pictures, full of personality and love. We also enjoyed very much the shoot at her studio. She is simply professional and highly recommendable! We look forward for our next shoot with her!
Kelly Wu
Kelly Wu
00:30 30 Nov 17
We had lovely photo section with Susan, Susan was friendly and helpful. The images taken with Holland park in Autumn were gorgeous ! They are even better than I was imagined. Thank you so much Susan !
Nadia Strone
Nadia Strone
10:19 22 Nov 17
Its a pleasure working with Susan. Our exchanges before the shoot were great - I knew exactly what to expect and we got good advice on location and what to wear. The shoot went very smoothly, and Susan was able to capture fabulous shots, ticking off everything on my wish list. She was flexible and worked well with my two-year old daughter, dog, and husband - who does not like posing for the camera! I cant wait to work with her again.
Junya Hosaka
Junya Hosaka
15:27 18 Nov 17
We had great experience with Susan. The shoot place were primrose hill. Her arrangements were perfect. Especially, she instructed us just right position and took us with sunlight filtering through the trees ingeniously. Our sons really enjoyed the photo shooting. The photos are so good and much exceeded our expectations. The photos and the experience are our precious memories in London !
danielle wright
danielle wright
13:51 10 Oct 17
We've just had our third photoshoot with Susan and are delighted with the photos yet again. Susan always makes us feel comfortable during the photo shoots and has captured some amazing images of our children.
Iivika Considine
Iivika Considine
18:35 04 Oct 17
We really enjoyed the entire session with the excellent Susan. She was prepared and patient (an essential skill when working with newborns) and was able to help Mom and Dad to enjoy the experience also! I'd have no hesitation in recommending Susan to capture those never to be replicated moments with your new arrival!
Miguel Oliveira
Miguel Oliveira
22:24 18 Sep 17
Susan was amazing through the entire journey: the photo session was delightful, in a very relaxed environment and it was a truly pleasant experience for both of us. The resulting pictures were absolutely fantastic: the attention to detail and expertise Susan put in the whole process made us feel more than happy with the pictures we chose.We highly recommend Susan's photo sessions.
Eliza Moldovan
Eliza Moldovan
10:24 17 Sep 17
Once again, we had such an amazing experience. Susan has a great personality and a spot on eye, able to improvise at any minute while we were outdoors. My daughter felt relaxed and happy and so did we. The pictures were fabulous and that is why I keep coming back to Susan for more and more photo sessions. I would recommend Susan to anyone who would want long lasting, quality memories.Thank you Susan, you've been brilliant again! xx
Steph
Steph
17:12 15 Sep 17
I really enjoyed my maternity photo session with Susan last weekend. She is warm, friendly and immediately made us feel comfortable. I wasn't really sure what I wanted, other than for us to capture 'the bump', but I love the varied, beautifully lit images she has produced. I'm happy we'll have these to look back on and remember this time. Definitely recommended!
Allegra Hardy
Allegra Hardy
13:47 08 Sep 17
Susan is – extraordinary.It’s not just her astonishing ability to catch light that sets her images apart but also her innate skill at immortalising the relationships her subjects share. While her artistry is undoubtedly a well-honed gift, her easy going, welcoming and truly practical approach puts her subjects at ease and allows her to deliver startling portraits. Thank you Susan. Cannot wait till next time!
古見祐梨
古見祐梨
09:06 08 Sep 17
Susan is such a lovely lady. She was so kind and friendly to our kids. We all really enjoyed the photo shoot. It was relaxing and so much fun! And all the photos came out amazingly beautiful. I definitely recommend her:))
Cátia Silva
Cátia Silva
15:35 15 Aug 17
Our daughters just love Susan! She's quite a talent with kids! Loved the pictures!
Heather Goodsir
Heather Goodsir
19:51 05 Aug 17
We have just enjoyed a family photo shoot with Susan and have to say, the whole experience was fabulous from start to finish. Susan is absolutely lovely, warm and relaxed, putting us all instantly at ease. My children thought it was such a treat and even my husband discovered his inner diva! The resulting photos are gorgeous - I definitely recommend her!
Vincci Chan
Vincci Chan
21:53 26 Jul 17
Susan was so professional, photos were so naturally beautiful. Absolutely amazing. Enjoyed the shooting. Highly recommend her.
Kirsten Aldridge
Kirsten Aldridge
08:16 21 Jul 17
Susan has photographed both our sons as newborns and we treasure the beautiful family images she has created. Susan has a lovely style, immediately putting everyone at ease, enabling her to get fabulous photos even when her subjects are not naturals in front of the camera!
Chris Vos
Chris Vos
16:18 15 Jul 17
Amazing photographs, kids were really at ease. Many thanks
Yuki H
Yuki H
21:04 22 Jun 17
She knows how she can take pictures of best moment of family.
Franck Sauvage
Franck Sauvage
14:11 12 Jun 17
Lovely people. Always happy
Tomoko Ohigashi
Tomoko Ohigashi
10:45 28 Apr 17
It was a fantastic experience. We all enjoyed every moment in the photo shoot. My children were so excited and love Susan! Photos are absolutely brilliant. Beautiful, warm, and stylish.I love the magic of natural light.
Aisha
Aisha
18:41 21 Apr 17
Susan is amazing! The pictures are beautiful and magical. She made me feel very relaxed during the photo shooting and It was lots of fun! The results are absolutely gorgeous! Highly recommend her.
Yuka Aoki
Yuka Aoki
19:19 28 Mar 17
Susan was absolutely amazing on photo shooting as she made us very relaxed and took beautiful photos of our family which will treasure forever! Thank you Susan!!!
Michelle Tolfrey
Michelle Tolfrey
11:54 17 Mar 17
I had a lovely experience on my maternity photo shoot with Susan. She had a range of suggestions for the photos and created a comfortable and fun atmosphere. I'm so pleased with the results and will treasure these photos forever.
Marian Bavington
Marian Bavington
12:35 04 Mar 17
Wow! I am truly blown away by the photographs that Susan shot of my children. I can't stop looking at them. She has managed to capture such beautiful, gentle, elegant yet powerful images. I will treasure them forever. Susan made the children feel totally relaxed and at ease, they loved every minute of the shoot and had lots of fun. We have had professional shoots before but they have been nothing like this and it shows in what she has produced. Thank you Susan
Shiv Sriranjan
Shiv Sriranjan
14:25 18 Jan 17
Susan came to our house to do a photo shoot of our 2 month old son. She was very prompt in replying to email messages and kept in touch to confirm our appointment date and time. We did not feel rushed and Susan allowed plenty of time to take photos of our son allowing for changes in his mood. We even walked around with him and played music to settle him when he was crying. We love the photos and hope to have another photo shoot with Susan when he is a bit older.Thank you.Shiv and Sen
Meena More
Meena More
09:38 11 Jan 17
Fiona MacNeely
Fiona MacNeely
12:41 29 Dec 16
I booked a family shoot with Susan because I wanted to capture a special moment in time with my family. We had never had a professional shoot before and were a little sceptical about how Susan would get us into a frame looking like we wanted to be there! We visited Susan's studio and she managed the task with humour. The shoot was fun, and the photos prove that. We are getting some classic close up prints which I will treasure.
Brooke Holiday
Brooke Holiday
13:32 28 Dec 16
Susan did an excellent job photographing our newborn. She has a lovely down to earth demeanor, and conducted the shoot from our flat - all of which kept my husband, our new baby, and me at ease. The photographs turned out beautifully. We're very happy with the whole experience.
Silvia Yasuda
Silvia Yasuda
11:41 07 Dec 16
We are delighted with the photos Susan took of our family at home! She used some of our personal belongings and was very engaging with our 3 year old boy. I would definitely recommend her work!
Jean Clarke
Jean Clarke
13:14 28 Nov 16
We got images taken on Hampstead Heath as we enjoy walking there as a family. Susan is really friendly and engaging and was absolutely wonderful at getting my two boys to be enthusiastic about the shoot - which is no small feat especially since the youngest is only two years old. The resulting images were beautiful, the only problem we had was deciding which ones to frame!
Ealing 135 Advertising
Ealing 135 Advertising
21:27 21 Oct 16
We recently had our two children photographed at Susan's studio, and the photos really capture their personalities. Our 4 year old daughter especially loved posing in front of the wind machine and Susan managed to capture our cheeky one year old son with his big sister after many creative attempts at trying to get them to stay still together! The images are superb and I would recommend Susan for her skill and artistry.
Andrea Doyle
Andrea Doyle
12:12 18 Oct 16
Amazing ! Thank you Susan , we love our family photos, they are so beautiful , especially the one of my boys playing together in the park , I love it ! You were amazing with my crazy 3 year old he really enjoyed the shoot . Thanks again and we will definitely see you again X
Helen DeVille
Helen DeVille
22:56 02 Sep 16
My family and I enjoyed a shoot at Kew Gardens with Susan. She was excellent at getting us all to feel relaxed which has resulted in the most beautiful, natural pictures of us all! Highly recommended indeed.
James Henen-Webber
James Henen-Webber
21:27 24 Jul 16
Absolutely fantastic! Susan was simply great for the whole family and with 3 children this isn't easy. We achieved all the pics and more and will certainly be using Susan again. What I was particularly pleased with was the fact that Susan captured all of our personalities in one photo positively and consecutively in others too. Photos were all great quality and the toughest job was deciding which to go for! Thank You Susan for this fab memory we will always cherish.
Kelly Wong
Kelly Wong
18:28 06 Jul 16
That is a delightful day out with Susan, her ideas matched every member of my family, plus her prompt and professional services in short notice, it enriched our trip as we flew from thousand miles away, the beautiful photos were the highlight of the family reunion trip for sure, thanks Susan.
Amanda Synnott
Amanda Synnott
13:26 25 Jun 16
Susan has captured the girls personality and the photos are beautiful!
Davina Londra
Davina Londra
16:14 24 May 16
We booked a newborn shoot with Susan after a successful maternity shoot with her. We were equally pleased with the newborn shoot and found it very hard to choose the final pictures from some beautiful shots. Thanks again Susan.
Brice Mouttet
Brice Mouttet
17:09 23 May 16
Having the photoshoot with Susan was a very nice experience. I never had a photoshoot before, but she helped a lot making me feel more comfortable. I like the idea of a photoshoot at a fantastic location, in our case Greenwich. I can't wait to see the photos.
Nick Wright
Nick Wright
09:53 18 Apr 16
We recently did our second family photo shoot with Susan. We did our 1st shoot in Kew Gardens. Having very much enjoyed this experience we had no hesitation to ask her to shoot our family again, this time including our recent addition, at her studioWith great skill and patience she has again taken photographs which are very natural and beautiful to look at. They will take pride of place at home.
Alexandra Joseph
Alexandra Joseph
06:26 10 Apr 16
I recently had a maternity shoot with Susan in her studio in Ealing. This was something I did for my husband as a surprise as he loves my growing bump. I was quite nervous as I'm rather self critical but Susan very much put me at ease. She was very considered and thoughtful in her approach and spent a lot of time doing a variety of images with different outfits so there have been a lot of beautiful images to choose from, which isn't a problem I anticipated having! I look forward to our newborn shoot.
kitty witts
kitty witts
18:36 29 Feb 16
I did a maternity shoot with Susan last week- a great experience! She was so lovely and professional but also quite relaxed. She made me feel very comfortable and not at all self conscious which was especially important as I was getting half naked (and naked at one point!).The photos are amazing and it's been quite difficult choosing which ones to keep. I would highly recommend Susan to have your pregnancy documented. I will definitely book again for newborn or family shoot.
Eliza Moldovan
Eliza Moldovan
22:03 19 Feb 16
It was such a great experience! Susan was so kind and her step-to-step guidance made me feel calm and confident at the same time. The pictures are absolutely amazing! I will definitely come back for my newborn pictures.Thank you Susan!
Natalie Grogan
Natalie Grogan
14:57 16 Dec 15
I had a pregnancy and newborn shoot with Susan. For the pregnancy shoot she put me at ease and for the newborn shoot she was very gentle with my 9 day old. We have ended up with some really beautiful shots from both shoots, with fantastic professional studio lighting. She has also been incredibly prompt in getting the images over for review after the shoot, with the edited images arriving within a few days. The only issue has been trying to decide which to purchase. Thank you Susan.
Sarah Ackers
Sarah Ackers
19:19 25 Sep 15
We recently did our second family photo shoot with Susan. She instantly puts everyone at ease and her photographs are really natural and beautiful.
M T
M T
17:52 25 Aug 15
We really enjoyed the maternity photo-shoot. I felt incredibly comfortable, the clothes that Susan had there are incredibly beautiful. There was plenty of time for many short breaks, the session did not feel rushed and the photos look absolutely beautiful.
Sneha Jajodia
Sneha Jajodia
15:06 19 Jul 15
Having seen Susan's photos on her website I just knew that she was the photographer I wanted to capture our family while we were visiting. She was warm & friendly and managed to get along with our entire family, FYI (ages from 4yrs -65yrs). She made us feel at ease and very natural in front of the camera. The moments she caught were incredible and we will treasure them for years to come. Definitely a thumbs up!!!
Sinead Cope
Sinead Cope
20:26 14 Jun 15
I recently visited Susan's studio for a maternity photo shoot. I have to admit that I was having second thoughts that morning as I felt like I resembled a whale at 36 weeks pregnant! However I had nothing to worry about. Susan is so welcoming and we all felt very comfortable immediatley (my husband and 2yr old son accompanied me). Susan was great at giving me clear instructions on how to stand and smile etc and encourged us to involve our toddler. I'm delighted we did as he really enjoyed the experience and the photos afterwards were priceless. When you are pregant it feels like the journey will never end, but it does and since baby arrived I find it hard to even remember what I looked like. I'm so happy now to have such beautiful photos to remind myself of an amazing time in our life. So if you are considering a maternity photo shoot, then I don't think you could find a better photographer than Susan. We are returning soon to have family photos taken with our new addition.
Faye Shearwood
Faye Shearwood
19:59 13 Jun 15
Susan Porter-Thomas made me feel really relaxed, providing me with maternity photos that I will treasure for years to come. She was very professional and used fantastic lighting with some great concepts. Highly recommend!
Yami Trequesser
Yami Trequesser
19:35 13 Jun 15
Our twin babies were only 3 months when we decided it was time to take some family pictures. A friend from my NCT group recommended Susan and after looking at her online portfolio we decided she was right for us. We only had 1 hour between arriving at her home studio and the kids next feed and nap, so time was precious. Susan made us all (babies and parents!) feel relaxed and comfortable in front of the camera. The result was beautiful. We had the photos printed for the grandparents Xmas present and it was a success. We also, of course, shared them with our friends, who absolutely loved them. Thank you, Susan, in the midst of sleepless nights and constant feeding, we had a great moment that will last forever.
Yasmin Meyohas Jensen
Yasmin Meyohas Jensen
13:31 03 Mar 15
Susan Porter is a wonderful photographer, and can get great pictures even in difficult shoots including young children. I have done two shoots with her and will definitely come back for more!
Nina Bennet
Nina Bennet
09:47 26 Feb 15
Susan is not just a technically adept photographer, she has a knack for putting kids (and their parents) completely at ease. The hour we spent with her at Kew was immense fun, and I am now in possession of some images of my children which have completely captured their personalities and sense of adventure. I will treasure them for years to come.
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